Peak Oil Debate Peak Oil Debate: E-Day, Part II by Eric J. Fry the Rude Awakening Wall Street, New York Tuesday, June 28, 2005 Eric Fry continues the Peak Oil Debate, with Dan Denning and, once again, Justice Litle. ------------------------- - Dan Denning gets in on the action with the peak oil
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------------------------- From Eric's desk... We return today with our second and final installment of E- Day! – A spontaneous three-way debate over the state of the world after "peak oil." Yesterday, we presented the views of both Byron King, editor of Whiskey and Gunpowder, and Justice Litle, editor of Outstanding Investments. Today, Dan Denning, editor of Strategic Investments, takes his shot. And then, to wrap it all up, Justice shares a few conciliatory and optimistic thoughts. Read on... --- Advertisement ---
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------------------------- E-Day! – Part II By Eric J. Fry Dan Denning writes: "Justice, I think that you haven't entirely answered the claim that the 'peak oil' problem is a real physical problem. You wrote: 'I submit that the peak oil scenario still represents more of a political threat than a physical one.' But I see these two threats as inseparable realities. You assert that peak oil can't ever produce a genuine and lasting energy crisis, because eventually high oil prices will make other unconventional energy sources 'economic.' In other words, there is plenty of energy in the world. It just may cost us more to get it. "But this is exactly the peak oil argument; that the production of cheap reserves of high-quality petroleum are declining, and that this phenomenon will unleash a series of geopolitical and domestic economic consequences. "All of this means that energy is getting more expensive for everyone. It also means that we'll have to accept lower energy-returned-on-energy-invested ratios (EROEI). It's great to get 30 barrels of oil using only one barrel of oil as energy. But as we move to other sources of energy, that ratio is going to drop. "Furthermore, there's another aspect to the word 'economic' that we're not even considering. We aren't accurately calculating the 'energy invested' portion of the ratio because we are not including the accumulated political and military cost of coddling, aiding and dealing with oil-rich and unfriendly nations for the last fifty years. "I wouldn't know how to begin to count this cost. But I'm sure it's...well...really high, and getting higher. We've invested a lot of political capital, as well as real capital, in the Middle East, not to mention lives. Surely that has to be figured in the net petroleum yield we get from that part of the world. By this math, oil isn't nearly as cheap as we've been making it out to be. "And if the last 50 years have proved more energy intensive on the cost side than first meets the eye, these intangible costs may seem as nothing compared to the future costs of relying on Middle East oil. This week, China put its first blue water warship to sea, no doubt just the beginning of its effort to secure the sea lanes through which China receives its oil and other commodities. And Iran, with its huge energy reserves, is developing a nuclear insurance policy to prevent an eventual American attack. Peak Oil Debate: Does Oil Price Include These? "Does the oil price include these costs? If it did, maybe Middle East oil wouldn't be as 'economic' after all. There are no mullahs in Utah, hurricanes in Colorado, or communists in Wyoming. But you will find a lot of gas, coal, and shale in the Powder River, Green River, and Piceance basins. "The second point Byron [King] and I have been trying to establish is by far the more important point. It refers to what Jim Kunstler calls, "the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of the world...America took all its post-war wealth and invested it in a living arrangement that has no future." "The American economy is not prepared for expensive energy. The American economy was built on an aberration and abetted by a mistake. The aberration is cheap oil, which will prove to be the exception and not the rule of industrial development. The mistake is fiat money and low interest rates, which, when coupled with cheap oil, created an American economy whose current structure can't survive higher energy prices. "Think of our nation's energy plight in terms of a fat rhinoceros in a desert oasis. His survival during a drought is not, to use your terms, a question of trimming the fat. His survival is in doubt because he's not built to survive leaner times. When the ecosystem changes radically, there's no Atkins diet for him to go on...He merely perishes. "Now, you may argue that human beings are more adaptable than a fat rhinoceros. You would be right. Economies are too. But the central argument here is that America's suburban economy is not built for a world where energy must get more expensive. In fact, our impressive economic development has been possible only because of cheap energy and fiat money. In other words, billions of economic decisions over the last fifty years, from the macro to the micro, have been based on erroneous (and unsustainable) economic assumptions. "Think about it...Large tract houses 30 minutes to an hour away from where folks work. The houses are only affordable through easy credit. The cars and SUVs that transport those people to work are only affordable when the automakers practically give them away or turn themselves into financiers rather than manufacturers. Swarms of shopping malls sprout up around these suburban developments in order to furnish, fuel, and feed the locals. And guess what? The stores themselves are also granting credit to their customers, or home equity lines of credit perpetuating the cycle. The retail/consumption economy becomes joined at the hip to the housing cycle: a mega consumption and credit bubble. "The entire suburban economy is an EZ-credit and cheap-oil chimera. Unfortunately, the declining supply of cheap oil is a physical reality, not something that can be wished away. Sign Up for The Rude Awakening Start your mornings off with a dose of Rude news. The Rude Awakening is dedicated to highlighting phenomena in the financial markets that others may not see. Let the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times "break news." Sign up FREE Today! We will not share your email address with anyone else, period. -Andrew Palmer, Director E-commerce Marketing We Value Your Privacy |
Peak Oil Debate: Generous Predictions
"Justice, you wrote: 'If the political will was there, and the fear levels were high enough, developing new sources like shale, etc., etc., would be a matter of years or even months, not decades. Political will combined with unrestrained force would absolutely demand it. A program that slashed consumer energy use by a third and poured trillions into energy development projects would likely see stabilizing results in less than a year.' "Maybe we could develop Colorado's oil shale within a few years, for example. And maybe things would stabilize in less than a year. But those are awfully generous predictions. And in any case, the real issue is whether or not we've built an economy that's sustainable with higher interest rates and more expensive energy. The peak oil argument says we haven't. It says, in fact, that the suburban lifestyle itself is, for lack of a better word, a bubble, as civilizations go. "You also wrote: 'From a technological standpoint, it remains true that we have the capability of solving our energy problems for the long run. It is just a matter of how much pain we face in the short run due to deadline compression." "Maybe. But this seems like more of an assertion than an argument. It would be nice if solving the peak oil problem were just a matter of suffering a little pain. But my contention here is that we've created something that can't survive because it wasn't built to survive the conditions we're headed for. "In the grand scheme of things, this puts the industrial revolution and the American dominance of the 20th century squarely in a strange light: a one-off boom/bubble begot by the marriage of easy money and cheap energy, creating an expectation for higher standards of living - standards which are not possible for six billion people at the American level of energy intensity. The competition for this standard of living and the disappointment people will feel when they realize it is not possible for everyone on the planet is about to create a geo-political firestorm, not to mention disappoint a lot of people in the West who thought that infinitely higher standards of living and abundant energy and credit are enshrined somewhere in the U.S. Constitution. "Like you, however, I'm an optimist. People will adapt. There's other energy out there. Money will be made. But I don't see any theoretical or technological bullet to save our fat from the fire. We're just too damn fat." Peak Oil Debate: Justice's Answer To which Justice immediately replied: "Dan, as far as I can tell, I'm in full agreement with you... I certainly agree that peak oil could unleash major political and domestic consequences. "As suggested in my hypothetical scenario, government mandated controls on energy consumption and distribution, along with some form of martial law to enforce compliance, would certainly be a far cry from business as usual. By ushering in a period of extreme hardship, peak oil could completely alter the west's political way of life, which in turn would dramatically curtail our freedoms. Significant economic hardship goes without saying. "Death of frivolous consumption, certainly. Death of representative democracy, quite possibly (in fact we are already witnessing this). Death of people for lack of basic survival necessities? Doubt it. We have been coddled for so long, we have lost perspective as to what the basic rudiments of survival really are. We will still have food, water, and shelter in abundance, even if the majority of creature comforts are given up by the majority of the populace. The rhinoceros will be in for a hell of a shock, but he will not die. His way of life will be stripped to the bone, but not extinguished. "How the political process might evolve on the other side of peak oil is anyone's guess. But here and now, we have the ability to cut back on energy consumption dramatically, when all is said and done, without sacrificing more than our current creature comforts and political freedoms. That's a hell of a lot to sacrifice, mind you - I don't look forward to a populist government monitoring my gasoline consumption in the name of peak oil, dictating who can spend what on what for the public good - but that is still a different scenario than people dying in the streets. "That is why I see the peak oil phenomenon as primarily political in nature. To say as much is not an attempt to gloss over the potential for wrenchingly ugly change. I don't see any magic bullets, and I don't see any way to preserve the irresponsible ways of doing things. But nor do I see the end of the road for innovation or technological progress. "Most of the people who experience the pain of peak oil, in my opinion, will still be around to experience a world where energy is once again abundant. "Perhaps one could view peak oil as a desert that the civilized world must trek across. What we cannot know for certain is how long the journey will take, or the highest temperatures we will need to endure along the way. While I don't have a firm stance on those questions, I am confident that we'll make it to the other side." Thanks guys...We eagerly await your next spontaneous debate. [Joel's Note: Cheers gentlemen! With the flood of response we received yesterday regarding this debate, we sense a round two in the works, so keep an eye on this space. These articulate macro-thinkers are just three of the men that will be working for you if you choose to lock in the offer of a lifetime. Even I can recognize this investment opportunity. Eric was a little calmer about it on the phone yesterday. 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